Episode 38: Happy Labor Day!

On this Week’s episode: a rambling conversation about everything from the holiday weekend to running races and training for marathons to … Martha Stewart? 

More importantly, we discuss the Texas Supreme Court’s ill-advised decision that lets the state’s ban on gender-affirming care for minors take effect despite the overwhelming weight of scientific and medical evidence to the contrary. And, on a related note, we talk about how the “parents’ rights” movement isn’t about parents’ rights at all, but interfering with your rights as a parent. We talk about the Canadian doofus who goes by the name “Billboard Chris,” the anti-queer cult’s complete misunderstanding of “consent” in the context of minors’ health care (hint: parents always have to consent to health care for their kids), and the limited (but obvious!) circumstances where parents lose the right to make decisions for their kids.

Finally, a couple of notes: First check out our friend Jesse Jackson’s appearance on the Bella Grayce Podcast where he talks about dealing with family members’ substance abuse and the uniqueness of losing a sibling. Second, we briefly revisit the firing of a local queer teacher over social media posts and the new GoFundMe to support him. Please consider making a donation!

Anyway, please enjoy this week’s episode, feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, and, as always, support the rights of LGBTQIA people everywhere! And follow us on Twitter at @itsotetPodcast and @JennandDave1.

Episode 37: What’s the Matter with Homer Glen?

On this Week’s episode we talk about guitar playing, the Cubs’ playoff chances, and what the heck is going on in south suburban Home Glen, Illinois, where the local school board apparently fired a teacher for exercising their First Amendment rights to free speech and freedom of religion. We discussed this last episode but naïvely thought the school district might do the right thing. They did not. 

So, this week, we brought the heat. 

The short version is this: It’s hard to see any legal rationale for the board’s actions, and it may, in the end, expose the board to litigation … along with the pitchfork-wielding extremist mob that demanded the teacher’s firing in the first place. We’re talking about you, Libs of TikTok, Moms for Liberty, Awake Illinois, and Awake Americans. Maybe you folks ought to lawyer up.

On a related note, since the lynch mob raised the teacher’s apparent interest in Satanism, you might want to educate yourself about that theological perspective. It’s not what you think.

We also discuss the racist Jacksonville shooting and conservatives’ disturbing, if predictable, pattern of using “mental illness” as a shield to protect bigots and mass murderers and sword to demonize marginalized people, especially members of the LGBTQIA+ community. 

And speaking of lawsuits, with the rising wave of hate crimes in America, from the  racist murders in Jacksonville to the homophobic murder of Laura Ann Carlton in California to bomb threats phoned into Illinois libraries, it may be time to subject some of these extremist groups to the SPLC treatment. See: Aryan Nations on the Verge of Collapse Following Judgment.

Finally, since groups like Moms for Liberty got their start protesting COVID restrictions in schools before they turned to attacking trans and nonbinary youth, we thought we’d take a look at the number of COVID deaths versus the number of gender affirming surgeries among kids 18 and under. While it’s difficult to find statistics for exactly identical time periods, you won’t be surprised to learn that there were more than 1,800 COVID deaths among kids from 0 to 18 through June 2023, and around 800 surgeries, nearly all on 17 and 18 year olds, during the the two-year period from 2019 to 2021. So, apparently, Moms for Liberty and their affiliates would rather that children die of COVID than have potentially life-saving surgeries. Duly noted.

Anyway, please enjoy this week’s episode, feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, and, as always, support the rights of LGBTQIA people everywhere! And follow us on Twitter at @itsotetPodcast.

Episode 36: A Hundred Degrees in the Shade

On this Week’s Episode: A heat wave in the midwest. Climate change is real. Growing up without air conditioning. Bomb threats at libraries. Anti-queer hate crimes. And local outrage addicts pick up the pitchforks and go after an art teacher for … being queer? Exercising their First Amendment rights? Criticizing the police? Being a “satanist”? Having had mental health issues several years ago? Who knows, but it doesn’t add up.

Also … a little Irish hip hop for good measure? Why not.

Update on the art teacher controversy: Since recording this episode, the local school district fired the teacher for reasons that are less than clear. We’ll have more information — and more questions — on next week’s episode.

So, anyway, please enjoy this week’s episode, feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, and, as always, support the rights of LGBTQIA people everywhere! And follow us on Twitter at @itsotetPodcast.

Episode 35: A Quieter Podcast … Sort Of

On this Week’s Episode: Haircuts. Heated conversations. Why people feel like they don’t have a platform when there are more platforms than ever. The Clash and the ethos of punk. Bruce in Ireland (again!) and how Little Steven trolled the haters. A chance meeting between Joe Strummer and Bob Weir. RIP and Pee Wee Herman and Tony Bennett. Johnny Cash always got it. And more!

So, please enjoy this week’s episode, feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, and, as always, support the rights of LGBTQIA people everywhere! And follow us on Twitter at @itsotetPodcast.

Episode 34: Keeping Up With the News

On this Week’s Episode: Trying to keep on top of the news without drowning in a sea of misinformation. Teaching history. The media’s obsession with “cancel culture” and their misunderstanding of censorship. The complexity of free speech in the classroom. The summer is flying by. Our youngest’s senior year in college. Courts learned some good lessons from COVID. And more.

We also remember Shuhada’ Sadaqat, born and known professionally as Sinéad O’Connor, who died unexpectedly last week at age 56. We talk about the tremendous courage it took for her to stand up to the Catholic Church and call out its history of sex abuse and coverups, as well as her honesty and openness in sharing her mental health struggles with the world. And we acknowledge that many of us owe her an apology.

But we also talk about how she found peace later in life in small villages in Ireland where the locals let her be herself. That’s a beautiful thing, even if it didn’t last. What an absolutely tragic loss.

So, please enjoy this week’s episode, feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, and, as always, support the rights of LGBTQIA people everywhere! 

Episode 33: Mind Your Business

On this week’s show: Our pool is finally open after months of delay. We’re still trying to get the hang of Threads. Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick support the ACLU Drag Defense Fund. Drag queens have First Amendment rights, too. A lot of you have lost your minds. Jennifer says mind your business. “Moms” for “Liberty” doesn’t want this smoke. White people ruined “woke” (just ask Bill Burr). “Awake Americans” … who are awake, but not woke? … are cringeworthy. And more. 

So, please enjoy this week’s episode, feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, and, as always, support the rights of LGBTQIA people everywhere! 

Episode 32: Adventures in Social Media

With the launch of Meta’s new social networking platform, Threads, we dedicate this week’s episode to the good, the bad, and the ugly of social media.

As Twitter circulates slowly down the drain (taking TweetDeck with it, apparently), we discuss the toxicity of that platform and whether Threads is a viable alternative. We also talk about the relationship between Threads and Instagram, our own various social media accounts, and learning how to deal with trolls — including one very angry, unemployed rage-aholic from Torrence, California — without losing your mind.

And speaking of our various accounts, you can follow us on: 

So, please enjoy this week’s episode, feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, and, as always, support the rights of LGBTQIA people everywhere! 

Episode 31: Transitioning While Famous, and the Supreme Court Strikes Out

On this week’s episode, after reminiscing about being in New York City last year for the 4th of July and giving a shoutout to Garland and Claire Jeffreys for commenting and sharing last week’s podcast, we get down to business.

First, we talk about Elliot Page’s book Page Boy: A Memoir, which Jennifer highly recommends. Navigating becoming famous while coming to terms with being transgender is not an easy thing to do, but Elliot has managed to do it with grace.

And that brings us to a discussion of other people who’ve transitioned while in the limelight, including Grammy-winning artist Wendy Carlos, who brought the Moog synthesizer to Bach and other classical composers in the 1960s and ’70s, and Chaz Bono, who began to transition around 2008 and sat down with David Letterman for a memorable interview in 2011.  

In this same conversation, we talk about Gina Chua, former executive editor at Reuters with a decades-long, high profile career in journalism, who transitioned during the COVID-19 pandemic. In a 2021 New York Times story, she said the pandemic gave her the privacy and time to be able to “grow into her skin.” Chua is the most senior transgender journalist in the country. In the Times article she says, “There are a lot of people who are 14 years old who would like to know that this is not a death sentence.” She continues, “It’s not a millstone. It’s something you can be proud of, it’s something you can celebrate and something you can live with.”

Finally, we turn to the recent Supreme Court decision in 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis, where the Court considered a web designer’s challenge to a Colorado civil rights law that might, theoretically, possibly, maybe, someday … require her to create a wedding-related website for a same sex couple. The only problem is, no same sex couple has ever actually asked her to do that, so her entire case is based on mere speculation. That’s the kind of case that courts ordinarily throw out because, without an actual injury, a plaintiff has no standing to bring a lawsuit in the first place. Not so much under the current Bizarro-World Supreme Court, apparently.

But it’s actually worse than that. At some point during the case, anticipating a challenge to her standing, the plaintiff filed a declaration under penalty of perjury stating that a same sex couple named Stewart and Mike contacted her company to inquire about a wedding website. Though the documents the plaintiff filed provided Stewart’s telephone number, no one bothered to verify the story. Except for a journalist named Melissa Gira Grant, who published a piece in The New Republic on June 29, 2023, one day before the Supreme Court delivered its opinion. In her New Republic article, Grant reveals — and other media outlets have since confirmed — that the story is simply untrue. Stewart never reached out to 303 Creative, never knew that they used his name in their case, and absolutely never requested that 303 Creative design a website for him. In fact, Stewart himself is a web designer and was already married at the time of the alleged contact … to a woman, not to a man named Mike. 

Apparently, some folks are so consumed with their own hate that nothing else matters, least of all the truth.

So, anyway, please enjoy this week’s episode, feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, and, as always, support the rights of LGBTQIA people everywhere! And if you’re new here, you can also follow our Twitter account, @itsotetPodcast.

Episode 30: 80th Birthday Tribute to Garland Jeffreys, the King of In Between

On this special joint episode of our two podcasts, In the Shadow of the Evening Trees and Two Minutes Fifty-Nine, we celebrate one of our favorite artists, Garland Jeffreys, who turned 80 on June 29.

To those who don’t know, Garland Jeffreys is a singer-songwriter from New York who wrote and performed some of the most influential, if not necessarily widely-known, music over a 50-year career from the late 1960s to 2018 or so. His first big hit “Wild in the Streets,” has been covered by multiple artists and featured in movies and on television over the years. He also traveled in the same circles as Bruce Springsteen, Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes, Willy DeVille, Lou Reed, and the New York Dolls back in the day.

In this week’s show, we talk about how we connected with Garland, first through the music and later through social media, and how, in a weird sort of way, we lived parallel lives without knowing it. Which is to say, we both started having kids around the same time, which led Garland to pause his musical career and us to drop out of pop culture for awhile, as parents do when their kids are young. And so we both reemerged, in a sense, around 2011, and that’s when our paths crossed in real life. Since then, we’ve gotten to know Garland and his wife, Claire, we saw Garland play live in Chicago on multiple occasions, and we ultimately traveled to New York for his farewell concert five years ago.

It’s impossible to summarize Garland’s career or what his music means to us, but he and Claire are working on a documentary of his life and music called Garland Jeffreys: The King of In Between (a fitting title, as we explain), and we’re hoping that it’s out soon. In the meantime, you can contribute to the pos-production costs here.

So, please enjoy this week’s episode, feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, and, as always, support the rights of LGBTQIA people everywhere! And if you’re new here, you can also follow our Twitter account, @itsotetPodcast.

Episode 29: Solar Panels, Artificial Intelligence, and Hate Groups

This week’s episode runs a little long, but we think it will be worth your time.

We begin the show talking about solar panels and whether there is a downside to high tech solutions to environmental problems. Then we talk about artificial intelligence and how some employers use it in the hiring process. Perhaps employers use AI to cut down on the biases, implicit or otherwise, that hiring professionals may have … but what about biases that are baked into the AI? Illinois and New York have passed legislation to address some of these issues, but it remains to be seen whether that legislation will be beneficial.

That leads to a broader discussion about implicit bias and whether we’d be better off confronting it and learning to hold it in check rather than relying on technology, which may or may not have its own biases, to replace human involvement. 

And don’t get us started on age discrimination … 

Anyway, we wrap up the show talking about the Southern Poverty Law Center’s recent designation of Moms for Liberty (or, more accurately, “Moms” for “Liberty”) as a hate group. While SPLC brands them as anti-government extremists for their concerted efforts to harass school board members, teachers, administrators, and pubic libraries, they are, in fact, a pro-authoritarian organization that wants to dominate public schools and dictate what other people’s kids learn and what books they can read. And that doesn’t even get into their over-the-top anti-LGBTQIA bigotry. 

Moms for Liberty has affiliated groups throughout the country, including ironically named groups called Awake Illinois and Awake Americans that are trying to destroy our local schools. And they will try to destroy yours, too. We will follow up on this in the coming weeks, but we also briefly mention some people in Illinois who are affiliated with these groups, including a small-town (alleged) “cowboy” who posts (homoerotic?) selfies all day and is convinced that he’s the smartest guy on the planet. You’ll be surprised to learn that he’s … not.

So, please enjoy this week’s episode, feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, and, as always, support the rights of LGBTQIA people everywhere! And if you’re new here, you can also follow our Twitter account, @itsotetPodcast.